The Surge in Homeless Crime in LA: The homeless population in Los Angeles has been large and growing for several years and crime has increased steadily along with the population growth. Joshua Chang of Crosstown reports that something happened between 2014 and 2015 that local the police can't explain. While the homeless population between 2014 and 2015 increased by 12%, crimes involving the homeless, either as perpetrators or victims, increased by 120%. Homeless advocates blame Mayor Garcetti's "Clean Streets" initiative to remove trash left by the homeless, claiming that it criminalized the homeless. The LAPD acknowledged the crime increase, but attributed some of it to better reporting. Could it be the 2014 passage of Proposition 47, which converted the most commonly committed felonies to misdemeanors? Following the common sense axiom that excusing crime results in more crime, it seems reasonable. Homeless crime has continued to increase roughly 45% each year since 2015, with over 15,000 homeless crimes reported last year.
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Wow prop 47 is the gift that keeps on giving for this blog. It is either the reason reported crime is down http://www.crimeandconsequences.com/crimblog/2019/07/violent-crime-in-california-re.html#more or the reason crime is up. Win win for the scare mongers.
I am tempted to agree with you and suggest that Prop 47 is the default for whatever happens, similar to climate change. But as one who lived through California's last flirtation with sentencing reform, who communicates regularly with police and prosecutors as well as employers, associates, friends and family all over the state, I can say with confidence that there is far more crime in virtually every California neighborhood than is officially reported, and that Proposition 47 is contributing to it. Two weeks ago a rookie cop was assassinated in Sacramento by a repeat offender who likes to beat up women and children. I think the state's current criminal justice system in California failed that dead young woman. Scare monger me.
Your anecdote about the tragic death of a police officer is a perfect example of scare mongering since, according to the FBI, felonious deaths of police officers in CA are basically flat over the past 10 years.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/leoka/2018/topic-pages/tables/table-1.xls
Indeed, your confidence is based on nothing but anecdotes. It remains unclear to me why people would not report crimes simply because they are misdemeanors unless the police are discouraging them from doing so, in which case it is on them.
12/27/18 LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- A new report released Thursday shows a 12 percent increase in law enforcement officer deaths in 2018, and California is among the states with the highest number of fatalities.
Preliminary numbers show that 144 officers died in the line of duty this year -- compared to 129 officers last year. That figure represents roughly a 12 percent increase.
Damn ABC, scare mongering again.
It is indeed scaremongering, the bread and butter of local news, because you need to look at the actual data. First, that is a national number not a CA number. Second, the fact that CA has a high number of fatalities is not surprising since it is a big state with a lot of officers. What is the rater per 100 officers? That would be meaningful. Third, the article you cite includes all fatalities including those "fatally injured in car crashes. Other deaths involved heart attacks, drownings and cancer and other illnesses developed by responders to the World Trade Center attack." Previously you raised the killing of an officer by a criminal, which you suggested was related to increasing crime resulting from Prop 47. I accurately stated that the number of "felonious deaths" of CA officers per the FBI is flat over the last 10 years. Your response is a classic misuse of statistics. So yes, scaremongering.
The post you link to does not say that Proposition 47 is the reason (definite article, singular) that reported property crime is down.
If you did not understand it, try reading it again.
Sorry, that post says Prop 47 is the reason reported property crime is down. This post says it is the reason reported homeless crime is up. Seems like having it both ways.
Evidently you still don't understand the post, even on a second reading. The earlier post does not state or imply that Proposition 47 is "the reason" (with definite article and singular implying the sole reason) for anything.
The post noted that property crime rates have been on the decline nationwide for many years. That decline is a factor in crime being down. Reported crime rates are a combination of committed crime rates and the proportion of committed crimes that are reported. The post noted the possibility that Proposition 47 may contribute to a reduced reporting rate. It did not state that as a fact. It noted a data problem inherent in the Uniform Crime Reports, which is also noted in FBI and BJS discussions of methodology.
It is quite possible that Proposition 47 both increases the crimes committed above what they would have been without the measure (even though the overall number may be down due to other factors) and reduces the percentage of crimes reported.
The present post deals with one relatively small subset of crime -- crimes committed by homeless people. The other factors may be different in this subset than for the population as a whole. The data reported indicate a sharp increase in this subset even while there is a downward trend for the state as a whole. The post notes the possibility (and does not claim as an established fact) that Proposition 47 contributed to this increase.
Crime is a complex social phenomenon. Measuring it has methodological challenges. It's not as simple as your last comment seems to indicate you think it is.